Josh Hutcherson and Director David Ayer Talk 'The Beekeeper'
Moviefone speaks with Josh Hutcherson and director David Ayer about 'The Beekeeper.' "Josh is playing a role. That's not who he is in real life," Ayer said.
Opening in theaters on January 12th is the new action thriller ‘The Beekeeper,’ which was directed by David Ayer (‘End of Watch,’ ‘Suicide Squad’) and stars Jason Statham (‘Expend4bles’), Josh Hutcherson (‘Five Nights at Freddy’s’) and Academy Award winner Jeremy Irons (‘Justice League’).
Moviefone recently had the pleasure of speaking with Josh Hutcherson and director David Ayer about their work on 'The Beekeeper,’ their first reaction to the screenplay, exploring the mythology of the Beekeepers, Ayer’s approach to the action sequences, Hutcherson’s wild character, and working with Jeremy Irons and Jason Statham.
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Moviefone: To begin with, David, what was your first reaction to the screenplay and the opportunity to explore the mythology of the Beekeepers?
David Ayer: I mean, you nailed it right there. When I read this script, it was this fascinating look into the world of the beekeepers. It was the right amount of, just enough to know what's going on, and not so much that you don't lose the magic and mystery of it. In that script, I saw an amazing role for Jason, he came attached to it, but also, I saw an opportunity for me to do something a little bit different. It's really a classic action, escapist, thrill ride. Normally I do a lot of dark drama, and so to have the opportunity to make a fun movie that I know an audience is going to love was something I couldn't say no to.
MF: The allegory of the movie seems to be that the Danforth Corporation has kicked the hornet’s nest, and Adam Clay (Statham) is the bee that is going to sting them. Do you agree with that?
DA: That's it. There's a lot of cool allegories and this very interesting mythology behind bees, and this idea of taking care of the hive, taking care of society, protecting the hive and protecting society. Jason was the perfect person to express that mythology because he is so iconic, and he does feel so larger than life that it really helps elevate this movie into something I think none of us were expecting. It's hard to make a movie, and it's hard to make a good movie, and you never know how these things are going to come together. I trusted the script and I trusted Jason and I trusted myself, because again, it's like a new language for me, like a real true genre picture that's fun and doesn't take itself too seriously. To find those new muscles as a director was a fantastic exercise for me.
MF: Josh, what was your first reaction to reading about your character in the script? Why did you want to play him and what was your approach?
Josh Hutcherson: When I first read this script and read a bit about Derek, I was surprised that I was the person that they were calling. It's a departure for me. He's a scumbag. He's a very powerful, rich crypto bro who is out of his mind on drugs and alcohol and just spiraling. I jumped at the bit to play it. I think that it was something for me that was a big departure and really taking a swing at something different. It was so much fun to do. As far as the approach goes, I mean, David and I just had a lot of conversations about who is Derek at his core, what does he really want, what's his life been like with his mom, with his dad and his money? We landed on this idea that he's wildly insecure and trying to prove to his family that he is powerful, and that he is valuable. Because he's never had to deal with any consequences his entire life, and had no accountability for anything, it creates a monster. As the film progresses and the walls start closing in on him, he becomes more and more unhinged and out of control.
MF: Can you talk about the illegal business that your character oversees and how it affects his family?
JH: He has this little side business that he's set up that basically is a call center, multiple call centers, that go and scam, especially elderly people out of their savings and bank accounts. It's a nasty business. It's gross. I think that in my mind, how I justified him starting this business is that it's twofold. One is that he's doing it out of a sense of rebellion because he must live a certain kind of life and keep things clean because of his family situation. Then the other part is I think that he, and this happens a lot, I think, when people have so much money, they dehumanize people, and you don't view them as actual human beings. So, I think those two factors allowed him to create this thing that turns into an absolute monster.
MF: David, can you talk about the unusual partnership that Derek and Wallace have together and working with Josh and Jeremy Irons?
DA: Josh is a real actor and just, I have to say it, Derek is not Josh, he's playing a role, that's not who he is in real life. He's a very nice guy. To take this wild, crazy character with the green jackets and the snakeskin and the crazy hair and then pair him with Wallace Westwyld as envisioned by Jeremy Irons, it's a great alchemy. It's a great relationship they have, and it helps make the bad guy world a lot more fun.
MF: Wallace seems reluctant to help Derek with his Beekeeper problem. Was the character written that way originally, or is that something Jeremy Irons brought to the role?
DA: It's something we worked on with Jeremy and it was also in the script too, this idea of, what happens when you get compromised, what happens when you say yes to the wrong thing, and then do you have to keep saying yes? If you do, what does that mean? You can feel that he knows what is happening isn't right, but you can also feel how trapped he is by the circumstances.
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MF: Josh, how would you describe Derek’s relationship with Wallace?
JH: Jeremy Irons plays Wallace Westwyld, and he's kind of like Derek's right-hand man sort of. He does Derek's bidding, protects him in ways too. He's a former CIA director, and now he's kind of been placed here to watch after me, but I treat him like absolute garbage. I'm a total douchebag to him. It's a fun dynamic, especially, I mean, having Jeremy Irons be this guy that I'm treating like trash. It was a lot of fun. It's a very good dynamic. David gave me a lot of space to play and improv and kind of throw a bunch of stuff at him, so we had a good time.
MF: Most of your scenes in the film are with Jeremy Irons, what was he like to have him as a scene partner?
JH: He's amazing. I mean, he’s just got such a weight to him, and his voice and his presence is just intense. But he's the nicest guy, very funny, and very relaxed. But when they say action, he turns it on, and he clicks it into gear.
MF: Josh, what was your experience like being on a David Ayer set and working with him as a director?
JH: David runs an amazing set. He's extremely collaborative. He works very fast, and he really marries the worlds of action and choreography and stunt work and big set pieces with more intimate, personal, grounded character stuff. He does that incredibly. For me, having the confidence with myself to play this character that's so different for me, I needed to just give myself over to it and trust David and let my instincts kind of take me to where they may. It worked out. I loved working with David. He's fantastic.
MF: David, can you talk about crafting the action sequences and working with Jason Statham?
DA: So, we had this great stunt coordinator and choreographer, Jeremy Marinas, who comes from the 87eleven school, and his understanding of human kinetics and how people just move was educational for me. Then with Jason, I mean, he's an action icon, he's a legend. He does his own stunts, so it's interesting because you present him a scene, he's the guy that's going to do everything, and he has a loud vote, he has a voice. He’s probably forgotten more about action than I've ever known. So, it was really challenging, I always bring my A game to set and Jason taught me that there's an A+ game when it comes to action.
MF: Finally, Josh, you don’t have many scenes in the movie with Jason Statham. Did it feel at times like you were making two separate movies?
JH: The truth is, I think I only have one scene with Jason in the entire movie. But just watching him, because there were many days where I was around and they were shooting other things, just watching him work, the guy he doesn't miss. He's so on top of it and consistent, professional and the choreography that he keeps in his head, and the fact that he's able to do that, and have his lines and nail his mark every time. He's a fine, fine, fine-tuned machine.
The Beekeeper
What is the plot of ‘The Beekeeper’?
Adam Clay (Jason Statham) is a former operative of a clandestine organization called "Beekeepers". After his friend and neighbor (Phylicia Rashad) dies by suicide after falling for a phishing scam, Clay sets out to exact revenge against the company responsible.
Who is in the cast of ‘The Beekeeper’?
- Jason Statham ('Fast X') as Adam Clay
- Emmy Raver-Lampman ('Blacklight') as FBI Agent Verona Parker
- Josh Hutcherson ('The Hunger Games') as Derek Danforth
- Jeremy Irons ('Die Hard with a Vengeance’) as Wallace Westwyld
- Jemma Redgrave ('Howards End') as President Danforth
- Minnie Driver ('Grosse Pointe Blank') as Director Howard
- Phylicia Rashad ('Creed') as Eloise Parker
Other David Ayer Movies:
- 'U-571' (2000)
- 'Training Day' (2001)
- 'The Fast and the Furious' (2001)
- 'Dark Blue' (2003)
- 'S.W.A.T.' (2003)
- 'Harsh Times' (2006)
- 'Street Kings' (2008)
- 'End of Watch' (2012)
- 'Sabotage' (2014)
- 'Fury' (2014)
- 'Suicide Squad' (2016)
- 'Bright' (2017)
- 'The Tax Collector' (2020)
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