'Piece By Piece' Interview: Director Morgan Neville

Moviefone speaks with Morgan Neville about 'Piece by Piece'. "This idea came from Pharrell that if he was going to do a documentary, it would be in LEGO."

Director Morgan Neville in 'Piece By Piece, a Focus Features release. Photo: Courtesy of Focus Features / © 2024 Focus Features LLC.

Opening in theaters on October 11th is the new documentary/biopic about the life and career of Pharrell Williams called ‘Piece By Piece’, which was completely animated with LEGO.

Directed by Morgan Neville (‘Won't You Be My Neighbor?’), the film features LEGO animated interviews with Pharrell, Gwen Stefani, Kendrick Lamar, Timbaland, Justin Timberlake, Busta Rhymes, Jay-Z, and Snoop Dogg.

Moviefone recently had the pleasure of speaking with filmmaker Morgan Neville about his work on ‘Piece By Piece’, collaborating with Pharrell and LEGO on the groundbreaking project, making an animated movie for the first time, whether the film is a documentary or a biopic, conducting the interviews, becoming a LEGO figure himself, and the emotional connection the audience has with the characters in the movie.

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Director Morgan Neville discusses 'Piece By Piece'.

Moviefone: To begin with, can you talk about how this unique project came together and what it was like working with Pharrell Williams to tell his story on screen?

Morgan Neville: This crazy idea came from Pharrell, where he apparently had the idea that if he was ever going to do anything like a documentary, it would be in LEGO. Apparently, everybody he told this to said, "That's a terrible idea," or "It's a crazy idea. It's an unattainable idea." Fortunately, he was a big fan of my films, and he said, "I want Morgan to do it." I met him, and the way he pitched me was, "It would be interesting if you made a documentary about my life, and when you were done with it, you threw out all the images and just replaced it with LEGO." When he said that, I got excited. I didn't think it was crazy. Well, maybe I did think it was crazy. But the craziness of it is what I thought was interesting because it was so unusual. I didn't even know what it would mean, and we just spent years in production figuring out what it could mean. But it felt like it opened so many creative doors. From that, we just had this incredible burst of creative freedom, which is what you want. I felt like that was Pharrell producing me, like, "Here are the ingredients. Now you go make it.”

Pharrell Williams stars in director Morgan Neville’s 'Piece By Piece', a Focus Features release. Photo: Courtesy of Focus Features / © 2024 Focus Features LLC.

MF: Before making this movie you were primarily a documentary filmmaker, what was it like for you to direct an animated movie and work with LEGO on this project?

MN: The documentary process and the animation process are opposites. The documentary process is revision and looseness. You don't have a lot of control. You're just trying to kind of stitch together the messiness of reality into something. In animation, you're God. You get to build the world. You get to put everybody wherever you want them and make everybody say whatever you want them to say. So, there was a tension between those two things that I really wanted to keep. I think it was interesting. Rather than erasing the imperfections, I wanted to embrace the imperfections and keep the grammar of documentary going. There were many times in working on the film with my animation director, who is fantastic, and our studios, that they would say, "Well, you don't do it that way in animation." I was like, "Oh, but we are. We are. We're going to try." Whenever they said, "Oh, you don't do it that way," I'm like, "Why not? Why can't we do it that way?" So, there was an interesting tension there that I think bore incredible fruit. It was the kind of thing where I knew my ignorance could be a bit of an asset, like let me insist on doing things this way just to see what it brings, and at the same time, also embracing the freedom of animation where, particularly when songs come in in the movie, anything can happen. So, me saying, "Well, we're not in a documentary anymore. We're in his head and in his head, anything can happen. We can be underwater, and we can be floating. Let's embrace that too.” That, for me, having done this for a long time, was so incredibly liberating.

(L to R) Jay-Z and Pharrell Williams in director Morgan Neville’s 'Piece By Piece', a Focus Features release. Photo: Courtesy of Focus Features / © 2024 Focus Features LLC.

MF: While the film is an animated documentary, it’s also an animated biopic about Pharrell’s life. Was that the goal or something you found naturally through the process of making this movie?

MN: It's a natural process and I feel like this is true of a lot of my filmmaking storytelling in documentary, is that it's not so much that I want to give you all the achievements of Pharrell Williams, because that is an eight-hour film. It's more like, how do I tell a story about a Black nerd from the projects who doesn't fit in, and then suddenly he completely fits in, and what does that mean to his own creative voice, and how does he stay in touch with it? It's a story of a creative person on this journey. That gets me excited, and that is a story that I identify with as a creative person. So that part of it, I kind of fully embraced, that we were making a movie that way. The other layer to it is that it's a musical in that I really listened to all the music he did. In my Spotify, I have 10 playlists of Pharrell songs he sang, songs he wrote, songs inspired by, songs with his solo albums, and songs with N.E.R.D. and The Neptunes. I spent a lot of time listening to everything and trying to find songs that spoke to me or felt like they were telling a story about Pharrell's life and then trying to really use the music to tell the story as much as we could too, which is great. Then on top of that, being able to then show the film to Pharrell and say, "Okay, Pharrell, why don't you write some new songs based on my view of your story?" He said to me that because he was looking at himself through my eyes, it made it way easier for him to write music as opposed to if somebody just said, "Hey, why don't you write a song about your life?" But the fact that he was able to see it through my eyes gave him a focus that allowed him to do it. I love all that. I love that creative feedback loop that we created.

Snoop Dogg in director Morgan Neville’s 'Piece By Piece', a Focus Features release. Photo: Courtesy of Focus Features / © 2024 Focus Features LLC.

MF: Can you talk about the interviews you did for this film and how did people react when you told them they would be depicted as LEGO figurines?

MN: Well, we didn't tell anybody in the beginning that it was going to be LEGO. It was kind of a secret. It's not that we were trying to deceive people, but we told people it was going to be a documentary and we were going to animate it. Five years ago, we started these interviews, and we didn't want it getting out, but we also didn't want people necessarily performing or thinking, "Oh, I'm talking as a LEGO minifigure." So, we just tried to keep it organic like I normally would on a documentary. Then over years of animation, we started to tell people. I started to show some of the people in the film their character designs. I have to say, every single person was excited. Who doesn't want to be a minifigure in LEGO? So, a lot of people, even people who were kind of like, "What? Really? Is this going to work," every one of those people now wants their own minifigure. So, I think it was something that just clicked so well that turned out better than I could have expected. It was exciting.

(L to R) Pharrell Williams and director Morgan Neville in their film 'Piece By Piece', a Focus Features release. Photo: Courtesy of Focus Features / © 2024 Focus Features LLC.

MF: You are also featured in the film. What was that like for you as a filmmaker to be a character in the movie and what did you think about your own LEGO representation?

MN: Yeah, I'm not normally a character in my movies, but this was such an unusual movie that I felt like if I was honest about my role in the film, it helped the audience understand how we got here. So really it was a way of me solving a story point, but it's real. That's really me trying to figure out what this movie is. So, in that way, even though the film is a documentary, it also plays like a film about a guy trying to make a documentary about Pharrell too. All those different gears, the lines of what's documentary and what's musical and what's a biopic, to me, you have a lot of those questions going in, but hopefully when you come out, it just makes sense.

(L to R) Director Morgan Neville and Pharrell Williams in their film 'Piece By Piece', a Focus Features release. Photo: Courtesy of Focus Features / © 2024 Focus Features LLC.

MF: Finally, have you been surprised by the emotional connection audiences are having with these plastic characters?

MN: Yeah. I was worried because a LEGO minifigure is very reductive. Characters have no nose; they have no ears. You can't see them cry or sweat. There's a lot of restrictions. The question was, if I'm showing close-ups of a minifigure in an interview, is that compelling? Is it going to be emotional? Is it going to connect? Right when we started doing tests, it started to work. Kind of my own theory on it is that you project a lot of yourself into LEGO because it's low resolution in that way, that you can see yourself in characters more. Now a lot of people who see the film say, "I forgot I was watching a LEGO movie," and I love that. There are a lot of people saying that they get emotional watching it, and I felt emotional about making it, but you never know if that's going to translate. So that's been one of the best things to come out of finally being able to show people this film is just seeing how it connects so deeply with folks.

Piece By Piece

"Turn up the volume on your imagination."

PG1 hr 34 minOct 11th, 2024

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PIECE BY PIECE is a unique cinematic experience that invites audiences on a vibrant journey through the life of cultural icon Pharrell Williams. Told through the... Read the Plot